Bilawal says India lost war 'miserably'

"Anwar had been in New Delhi over the past weekend to attend the BRICS summit when he gave the interview. Som asked Anwar whether he considered Israel's actions against Hamas to be terrorism. "Yes, it's state terrorism," Anwar replied, adding that it was terrorism and "state terrorism.

"Som then asked whether, by the same standard, Anwar would consider what Pakistan had allegedly done in Pahalgam, Kashmir and against India to be state terrorism. "I wouldn't go to that extent," Anwar said. He acknowledged that he was being particularly sensitive because he was speaking in India, before referring to his relationship with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

"But of course, I'm a close friend of Modi ji," the Malaysian prime minister said. Som then pressed Anwar on why he was not more direct in condemning Pakistan over alleged terrorism. Anwar said the allegations first had to be established.

"I mean, I'm not suggesting that there were no terrorist acts," he said, but added that they had to be ascertained with certainty. The Malaysian prime minister said none of his intelligence officials involved in engagement with India had been state-sponsored terrorism.

"Therefore, I, as prime minister of Malaysia, would then refer to these facts," he said. "Do we then deny some of the information submitted to us by the Indians? No, we don't," he added.